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Post by Alexis on Feb 27, 2009 19:36:17 GMT -5
We've all been debating the strengths and weaknesses of the first five HP films, but there are still three more to go. So here's a place to talk about movie news and speculate about what the end of the series will look like.
This week brought us one piece of exciting news: release dates! Barring any new disasters, Half-Blood Prince will finally be released this summer, followed by Part I of Deathly Hallows November 19, 2010 and Part II July 15, 2011.
One of the things I'm most interested in is where they'll decide to split Deathly Hallows. A colleague and I were talking about it at work today, and we both agreed that Part I will probably end at a moment when things are totally down. (Not that DH has lots of up moments.) I'm thinking maybe when Ron leaves Harry and Hermione. What do you all think?
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Post by pigwithhair on Feb 27, 2009 19:46:13 GMT -5
I'd read in an interview with a crew member that was on SnitchSeeker some time ago that they were thinking of breaking it just after Ron returns. This was before the script came out, though, so who knows what they ended up doing.
I had thought, initially, that they may do it right when Ron leaves and leave with a cliff hanger, but giving the attitude of the filmmakers in interviews, I tend to think the above theory is right and it'll be right after Ron returns. Heyman has said both parts of DH need to stand on their own - given that, I can't see them ending Part 1 with a cliffhanger.
I'm very curious to see how DH is filmed, what is included and what isn't and how they work the relationships.
The battle of the Seven Harrys could be interesting.
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Post by magikcat on Feb 27, 2009 22:28:20 GMT -5
I agree with PigWithHair about ending it right after Ron returns. Ron's betrayal is one of the lowest moments in the book (at least in the first half of it), and they may want to end with somewhat of a high note.
And I think if they play it well it could be a really touching scene.
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Post by starsea on Feb 28, 2009 20:17:30 GMT -5
The battle of the Seven Harrys could be interesting. It certainly will be, considering that we've never had a movie Bill Weasley and I don't think Clemence Poesy is coming back as Fleur!
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Post by Alexis on Mar 2, 2009 18:57:59 GMT -5
And at this point, it's a little late to shoehorn Bill and Fleur's storyline into the movies. That adds complications not just for the Seven Potters, but also for the wedding, obviously, and for Shell Cottage. I guess Remus and Tonks could stand in for the latter two. Maybe for the Seven Potters they'll add in some random Aurors? Ginny and Molly could come if they wanted to use established characters, though that wouldn't leave anyone waiting at the Burrow. Hmm. From pigwithhair: I'd read in an interview with a crew member that was on SnitchSeeker some time ago that they were thinking of breaking it just after Ron returns. That would probably be a good point if they wanted a slightly more uplifting breaking point. I was thinking more along the lines of the type of break you get at the end of The Empire Strikes Back, when pretty much everything is going wrong. Either type has precedent for movie series, so it'll be interesting to see which was they choose to go.
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Post by pigwithhair on Mar 2, 2009 19:49:59 GMT -5
I don't see how it matters that we've not seen Bill in the films, other than in the Daily Prophet photo when the Weasleys were in Egypt. It can easily be weaved into DH that Ron's brother is marrying Fleur Delacour.
It could be possible to switch it Remus and Tonks's wedding, however it's just as possible it will be Bill and Fleur's. It'll be interesting to see what the filmmakers do.
I have read that Clemence Posey did not return for HBP, but to my knowledge it's never been announced whether she will or will not return yet for DH. They've just begun filming and will be hiring and rehiring cast members off and on over the next year.
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Post by Mirabelle on Mar 2, 2009 22:02:38 GMT -5
At this point the producers probably already know who they want back and have contacted them to work out scheduling, but they won't make announcements until they're ready.
I think Bill and Fleur should be cut--if they're going to keep Remus/Tonks and kill them off at the end, it'd be nice for their deaths to have some emotional resonance and one way to do that is to give them more screentime. Give us a glimpse of their supposed happily ever after--show us their wedding, let us meet their baby. It'll be that much more sad when all that is taken away with their deaths.
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Post by starsea on Mar 3, 2009 12:49:39 GMT -5
I agree with Mirabelle, it's too late to bring in Bill and Fleur. Tonks and Remus would be a good substitute.
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Post by maraudercat on Mar 4, 2009 2:31:08 GMT -5
A bit off topic, but how good does Hero Fiennes-Tiffin look as young TR? I think it's just the expression on his face when he sees the burning cabinet. Perfect
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Post by pigwithhair on Mar 4, 2009 12:24:44 GMT -5
I posted this at CM but thought I'd post it here as well:
Interesting news out today regarding the DH film. SnitchSeeker reports that British actress Michelle Fairley has been cast in the role of Mrs. Grainger, Hermione's mother.
Since Hermione's parents aren't in the book, other than the mention by Hermione to Ron and Harry that she altered her parents' memories, this may be a hint that there will be additional scenes in the DH films that were not in the book once again.
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Post by birdg on Mar 4, 2009 14:36:28 GMT -5
If they don't use Ginny and Molly, I could see them replacing Bill and Fleur with Neville and Luna for this part.
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Post by Mirabelle on Mar 4, 2009 21:08:10 GMT -5
If they don't use Ginny and Molly, I could see them replacing Bill and Fleur with Neville and Luna for this part. I first read this while I was at work and my initial reaction was, "That's a horrible idea! How is that even going to work? Ginny and Molly are mother and daughter and Neville and Luna are still in school!" Then I thought about it and realized you were talking about the Seven Potters rather than Bill/Fleur's wedding. It was a long day at the office, okay?
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Post by kareena on Mar 6, 2009 19:58:36 GMT -5
Maraudercat,
I agree, I really have been pretty happy with much of the casting, although, I didn't expect Moody to look like that... Hero Fiennes-Tiffin is a fine young TRiddle, good choice.
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Post by magikcat on Mar 7, 2009 23:29:43 GMT -5
Most people might know this, but I noticed it wasn't posted yet. There is a NEW TRAILER out for HP and the Half Blood Prince. It can be found at YouTube here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HwmBnIhlzIDiscuss away!
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Post by MWPP on Mar 8, 2009 21:15:58 GMT -5
I read a leak about six or eight months ago that said that they would have Fenrir attack Mr. Weasley to change the storyline so that they didn''t need to bring a Bill in. And since they cut Dobby completely out of GoF, I think they will bypass the Shell Cottage stuff of the book, possibly put any of that that they do keep at the Burrow or #12 Grimauld Place, or some "on the run" setting.
Since they have a penchant for chopping and changing, do we know that they will keep the 7 Potters part? They could turn it into the 3 Potters or 5 Potters, if they keep it at all. Personally, I worry about that being kept and the killing of Hedwig. For a lot of fans, she and Dobby were the hardest parts of the whole book, so I could easily see them doing somthing quite different with that part.
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Post by pigwithhair on Mar 12, 2009 11:06:21 GMT -5
SnitchSeeker has just announced that it's been confirmed Domhall Gleeson will be portraying Bill Weasley in the DH films, per confirmation from Domhall's agency. So they are indeed introducing the character of Bill, and we may still have a wedding scene. It has not been announced if Clemence Posey will or will not reprise her role as Fleur in DH.
Also, it has previously been announced that the actor who has provided the voice of Dobby is also returning for the DH films.
Please note a leak or six or eight months ago would have been before they even had a completed script from Kloves.
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Post by starsea on Mar 13, 2009 14:57:38 GMT -5
Just watching Comic Relief on the BBC, a group of school kids were visiting the set and met PIGWIDGEON! That's right, people, Pig is finally going to appear! *faints and then revives* Oh yes, he's adorable. *faints again*
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Post by pigwithhair on Mar 13, 2009 21:38:45 GMT -5
I hope he will! I love Pig and I know his part was cut from GofF when they originally intended to have him in - you can see him though on the Animals section of the GofF special features.
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Post by magikcat on Apr 10, 2009 11:33:52 GMT -5
Matt Lewis (Neville Longbottom) talked about how he started working on the DH this week on Twitter. I find this odd, since Neville doesn't come till the end in the book.
Why do you think this is? One person suggested that he's filming scenes of what's happening in Hogwarts during DH. I like that idea and really hope so. ;D
Any other thoughts?
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Post by Mirabelle on Apr 10, 2009 22:57:59 GMT -5
Movies are rarely filmed in sequential order so it's not all that strange. It looks like they're trying to get the RoR scenes done or there may be added scenes prior to the wedding establishing how tense everything in the wizarding world is. I don't mind added scenes at Hogwarts though. Anything to minimize the camping scenes. I wouldn't even object if Yates decided to insert a scene where the house elves did a musical number as long as I don't have to watch endless scenes of Ron whining, Hermione nagging, and Harry angsting in a tent.
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