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Post by Author By Night on Feb 15, 2009 9:55:24 GMT -5
Here's one thing I've always wondered about the book: Where is it set, in canon? I can't figure out if it's supposed to be right after Prisoner of Azkaban (there is the "werewolfs* aren't that bad" scribble), during Goblet of Fire, or during Order of the Phoenix. I know it was written pre-OoTP (or think it was?), but did Jo write it with OoTP in mind? * How Ron/Harry spelled it, not me.
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Post by starsea on Feb 15, 2009 20:04:05 GMT -5
During "Goblet of Fire", I think. It was written during the three years between GoF and OotP.
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Post by queenie on Mar 16, 2009 0:53:51 GMT -5
What'd be fun would be to re-annotate the book with what Harry's notes might be in book six, and Ron's, and later to add James' notes, and then Albus Severus', as he shares with Scorpius, or what-have-you. An interactive fanfiction, and no two would have the same!
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Post by vegablack on Mar 24, 2009 13:38:28 GMT -5
I love that idea. (Luna's comments would be cool too.) We should make that a project here. What do you think?
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Post by Ilene Bones on Mar 29, 2009 19:40:36 GMT -5
As there is a comment about Snape being wrong scribbled in the margin of the Kappa entry, I think it is supposed to be set either during PoA or shortly after. However, the book is not actually mentioned in the letter from McGonagall listing the required textbooks. So it seems to have been meant more as a supplement than a core textbook.
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Post by vegablack on Apr 22, 2009 13:01:04 GMT -5
I wonder if some of the notes in Fantastic Beasts were written after Goblet of Fire since Ron claims the merpeople in Scotland are really ugly. He was held prisoner by the merpeople as part of the tasks in the Triwizard tournament. I'm not sure how aware he really was, but he had interaction with them then and unpleasant interaction at that. It seems like Ron to decide they were really ugly after the experience.
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Post by queenie on May 6, 2009 22:29:23 GMT -5
Really? I thought that was Harry's handwriting. Ron was asleep during the whole mermaid escapade, while Harry had to face them in a hostile way. I think if it had had anything to do with OotP, Harry would have written something about Thestrals. As it was, I wonder why he didn't consult his trusty book the minute he got back up to his dorm. ... maybe he forgot it at the Dursleys. Or else that was the time when Dumbledore asked him for his copy.
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Post by starsea on May 10, 2009 15:29:32 GMT -5
Really? I thought that was Harry's handwriting. Ron was asleep during the whole mermaid escapade, while Harry had to face them in a hostile way. But he could have glimpsed them before he was put to sleep!
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Post by queenie on Jun 7, 2009 1:16:09 GMT -5
Or maybe he spotted them while swimming out of the lake, or standing on the shore. That'd be a very bad thing to wake up to, in the middle of the Lake with a faceful of green teeth smiling at you... *guh*
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Post by starsea on Jun 7, 2009 19:36:03 GMT -5
Standing? I thought the merpeople were traditional enough to have fish tails. *goes and reads GoF again* But he could certainly have seen them emerging from the lake. Male merrows are VERY ugly. Check out Brian Froud's illustration in his "Faeries" book.
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Post by queenie on Jun 8, 2009 4:12:55 GMT -5
I mean when Ron was standing on the shore, looking back at the water. When he wasn't dying of ecstasy from receiving a kiss from Fleur. And speaking of Fleur, I wonder about how comprehensive this book is. It seems to be taken as a comprehensive, complete list of the "Beasts" of the world, including Centaurs and Mermaids, though some species are as yet undiscovered (and are there for Luna Lovegood and Rolf to find.) However, Centaurs and Mermaids are only on the list because they choose to be, and nonhuman creatures that can obey the laws that are set upon them are absent - such as Dementors, Veela, Giants, and Vampires. Just how many species of "Beings" are there? Whence would JKR have drawn such inspiration? * We know of half-giant and half-veela humans, so what other combinations are possible? * Well, in Japanese legend there's the Kitsune and Tanuki, magical foxes and raccoon-dogs, respectively, which are able to take human shape. They are, I understand, supposed to have complicated social structures and be able to perform various kinds of magic; as well, Kitsune are able to marry and have children with humans. It's a bit like the legend of the selkie - and we see how selkies are grouped with merfolk, above. I wonder if Kitsune exist as "beings" in the Harry Potter world, or maybe they've hidden themselves away very well (anyone here ever see the movie Pom Poko?)
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Post by vegablack on Jun 9, 2009 19:15:23 GMT -5
I believe Flitwick is part goblin. It's interesting that wizards can have children with non human beings. Does that make sense biologically? Does it matter?
I wonder if there is an addendum to the Magical Creatures book. Surely there have been new discoveries since it was written.
Does anyone know if Muggles or Squibs are able to see magical plants and animals? I know Squibs and Muggles can't see Dementors though they can feel their presence.
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Post by starsea on Jun 12, 2009 15:45:43 GMT -5
Does anyone know if Muggles or Squibs are able to see magical plants and animals? I know Squibs and Muggles can't see Dementors though they can feel their presence. There's a note in the Jarvey entry that a Muggle monk discovered a Jarvey in the herb garden and noted it swearing at him. The rest of his order thought he was drunk. Dragon sightings mean mass Obliviations (there's a note on that in this book as well).
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