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Post by queenie on Feb 25, 2010 17:47:44 GMT -5
The general fanon consensus seems to be that once the Fiendfyre was unleashed, the entire RoR was destroyed. I don't like this idea, partially because the idea of one more irreplaceable and useful relic (like Hufflepuff's cup, or Ravenclaw's diadem) being destroyed just irks me, and partially because I think future fanfic writers should have that room to play in as much as anyone else. Besides,
1. The Room of Hidden Things is only one aspect of the Room of Requirement, one facet on the diamond. Even if one facet is scarred, the rest of the diamond remains untouched. 2. The idea of Fiendfyre dying out when the caster does makes sense - especially if the caster is Crabbe, who was never proficient at magic in the first place, and whose casting of Fiendfyre probably took all he had, so he'd have no more power left in him to make it last post-mortem. 2a. Whatever magic has kept the room going for so long is probably much stronger than what Crabbe put into the Fiendfyre. 3. The Room of Requirement must have some latent consciousness all its own, rather like the One Ring. If nothing else, the room would know that it NEEDS to keep existing, so it would take care of itself with its own magic. 4. The next time some kid needs to hide something, the room of Hidden Things will probably show up again - completely empty, maybe smelling strongly of smoke (next thought: Boy, I need a window!), but there.
That's my thought on the matter.
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Post by MWPP on Feb 25, 2010 22:15:48 GMT -5
For me the RoR can't be destroyed due to it being part of the Castle. The Castle's magic is ancient and monolithic...un-destroy-able. Basically, the Founders knew what they were doing or its magic wouldn't have lasted beyond their own times. And, there's the whole idea (like with Goblin Made Swords making themselves stronger) that it would soak up massive quantities of residual magic over the centuries and exponentially get stronger until it was a force of its own. So being part of that has to mean the RoR has at least the same powers as the rest of the Castle.
Plus, like Queenie is saying, it is too good of a story figure/tool/plot device to have it be gone.
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If anyone is up for a Fan Fic Challenge (come one, come all) concerning the RoR healing from this, or even anything with the RoR as the focal point post Battle of Hogwarts (it could get some sort of Meritorious Service Award - assuming it is sentient; or Neville/others of the DA might go there to get over PTSD; or maybe someone wants to revisit someone who died or needs to know exactly what happened; or just a next-gen with the room helping them as it has our guys... I see tons of possibilities), I'd be glad to put up some good Harry Potter items for Prizes. To keep it impersonal or non-biased we can anonymously vote for the offerings to decide which is which. (Witch is witch?)
I dare ya!
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Post by MWPP on Apr 13, 2010 0:59:16 GMT -5
So, I'm going through PoA again and there is mention that Charley Weasley played Seeker. I thought Seekers were supposed to be a light-build (because there are comments about Cedric being big for a Seeker in GoF), and Charley is always described as blocky and sturdy and stuff like that.
Hmmm....
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Post by queenie on Apr 17, 2010 18:33:47 GMT -5
He really filled out after he left Hogwarts?
Or wasn't it concluded that he stopped playing Seeker in his seventh year? So he really filled out between sixth & seventh year and decided he wasn't suited well enough to be a Seeker any more, and he either didn't want to play another part on the team, or figured that one more year of play wasn't worth completely changing his personal playing/flying style.
Or maybe he was just a well-built Seeker like Cedric.
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Post by nundu on Apr 18, 2010 15:00:49 GMT -5
We know Filch had access to the RoR.
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Post by siriusgirl on Jul 20, 2010 11:12:34 GMT -5
What about Penelope Clearwater?
How old is she? Older COS copies have her in fifth year, but more recent copies say sixth year.
And is she Muggle-born? I say yes, Riddle says the basilisk petrified four Muggle borns. Those would be: Justin Finch-Fletchley, Hermione Granger, Colin Creevey, making Penelope the fourth.
Hermione said Penelope Clearwater, probably it was the first name that came to her mind, and saying "Muggle-born" is a death sentence! And Penelope may have been able to fake a connection to a wizard family through her mother (that's what I have happen)
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Post by MWPP on Jul 22, 2010 2:15:44 GMT -5
I was just going through Book 7 again yesterday and when the Snatchers got The Trio, Hermione blurted out that Penelope was "Half-Blood".
However, there is the thing where Diary-Riddle tells Harry, "(Ginny) set the Serpent of Slytherin on four Mudbloods, and the Squib's cat."
So.... Penelope is a Flint!
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Post by siriusgirl on Jul 22, 2010 9:49:31 GMT -5
I think Penelope IS muggle-born. It probably was a flint, but as I said, I don't think anyone would say their blood status is Muggle-born to some snatchers, that's suicide. Or that's my explanation for the Flint.
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Post by MWPP on Jul 26, 2010 23:11:53 GMT -5
Another thought :
In DH, Hermione emphasizes how she doesn't like Bellatrix's wand and the bad things its done, so we know it really is Bella's - - How'd she get it back? The MoM had to have taken it when they sent her to Azkaban. Since she was so delightful and Barty Sr. was such a stickler for "right", how come it wasn't destroyed then? And how exactly could she have gotten it returned to her?
(Walks in whisling and looking at the ceiling. Talks to guy at reception desk. "Why, yes. I am that same B. Lestrange who is an insane murderer and just broke out of Azkaban. Oh, and by the way, might I have my wand back. I have really missed it this past decade or so....")
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Post by siriusgirl on Jul 27, 2010 11:46:26 GMT -5
Another thought : In DH, Hermione emphasizes how she doesn't like Bellatrix's wand and the bad things its done, so we know it really is Bella's - - How'd she get it back? The MoM had to have taken it when they sent her to Azkaban. Since she was so delightful and Barty Sr. was such a stickler for "right", how come it wasn't destroyed then? And how exactly could she have gotten it returned to her? (Walks in whisling and looking at the ceiling. Talks to guy at reception desk. "Why, yes. I am that same B. Lestrange who is an insane murderer and just broke out of Azkaban. Oh, and by the way, might I have my wand back. I have really missed it this past decade or so....") . You're too funny! That's a good question. Maybe they were so scared of her, they gave it to her, or that one was also new, like Wormtail's wand?
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Post by MWPP on Jul 28, 2010 22:41:52 GMT -5
It can't be a new one because Hermione says some stuff about it being the wand that drove Neville's parents insane and killed Sirius.
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Post by siriusgirl on Jul 29, 2010 9:18:36 GMT -5
It can't be a new one because Hermione says some stuff about it being the wand that drove Neville's parents insane and killed Sirius. . This is true.
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Post by MWPP on Jul 29, 2010 23:18:25 GMT -5
As long as we're pondering - - -
Why didn't Harry go to the Room of Requirement (in OotP) when he needed an unwatched fireplace to contact Sirius about what he'd seen in the Pensieve?
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Post by siriusgirl on Jul 30, 2010 9:55:57 GMT -5
Probably because Harry was in a complete panic, and didn't even think to use the ROR, he just thought of the first place with a fire place he could think of
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Post by Mirabelle on Jul 30, 2010 20:34:08 GMT -5
It can't be a new one because Hermione says some stuff about it being the wand that drove Neville's parents insane and killed Sirius. Isn't Hermione just guessing about this? She has no real way of knowing that. I doubt there's a book out there called Death Eater Wands and How to Recognize Them.
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Post by siriusgirl on Jul 31, 2010 9:21:13 GMT -5
This is true. It's Bellatrix's wand she thinks it's the same one, but the only one who knows for sure is Ollivander
Oh-- as for teh Seeker position, seekers are usually light builds, but not always. Cedric was well built, and he was seeker.
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Post by MWPP on Aug 1, 2010 0:17:28 GMT -5
Glad you mentioned this. He confirmed that it was Bella's wand when Harry and crew were discussing things with him at Shell Cottage. (And that the wand Harry had was Draco's, during that same discussion.)
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Post by siriusgirl on Aug 2, 2010 11:14:35 GMT -5
Question is it her old wand or a new one? He didn't say anything about it being new
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Post by MWPP on Oct 17, 2010 0:17:58 GMT -5
OK, another thing that sort of doesn't make sense....
The last we see of Snape in HBP he is fleeing for his life, and after that everyone sits around vilifying him. The first we see of him (well, in the first chapter, anyhow) in DH, he is sitting around the Malfoy's table discussing how Harry will be moved from #4 - and he mentions that The Order is planning thus-and-so.
Why would anyone believe that after killing Dumbledore, he would have any access to what The Order was planning? Even numb-nuts like the DEs surely wouldn't believe he could possibly know what The Order of the Phoenix was doing a couple months after he was last allowed anywhere near them. Why was his info not laughed out of the room?
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Post by starsea on Oct 26, 2010 0:14:12 GMT -5
The last we see of Snape in HBP he is fleeing for his life, and after that everyone sits around vilifying him. The first we see of him (well, in the first chapter, anyhow) in DH, he is sitting around the Malfoy's table discussing how Harry will be moved from #4 - and he mentions that The Order is planning thus-and-so. Why would anyone believe that after killing Dumbledore, he would have any access to what The Order was planning? Even numb-nuts like the DEs surely wouldn't believe he could possibly know what The Order of the Phoenix was doing a couple months after he was last allowed anywhere near them. Why was his info not laughed out of the room? Snape was the originator of the plan, because he'd Confunded/Imperius'd Mundungus and planted it in Dung's brain.
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