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Post by MWPP on Feb 20, 2009 22:53:44 GMT -5
So many of the less-than-main characters are germain to the story. Let's discuss them here.
To start off -
The Castle! A. - - I have been bothered ever since DH came out that Voldemort could damage the castle as he did. It was his first real home, he wants to posess it, yet he blew up parts of it, attacked it, which seems counter intuitive to me. B. - - The Castle seems sentient in so many ways, why doesn't it help defeat the one attacking it? Why doesn't the Magic it is imbued with take over to protect it? C. - - Does it seem that JKR dropped the ball and didn't do anything with motto "Never Tickle A Sleeping Dragon"? It seems connected to Hogwarts, I expected it to DO something in the story. Why was it there if there was no significance? D. - - Will the Castle heal itself? Are these magical wounds that will always be there like Moody's scars?
Other Castle thoughts?
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Post by starsea on Feb 22, 2009 13:27:02 GMT -5
C. - - Does it seem that JKR dropped the ball and didn't do anything with motto "Never Tickle A Sleeping Dragon"? It seems connected to Hogwarts, I expected it to DO something in the story. Why was it there if there was no significance? I think that related more to OotP, when Umbridge tried to suppress and control every single aspect of Hogwarts and the whole school rose up against her. Remember when the Headmaster's/mistress's office wouldn't open her or let her in after she threw out Dumbledore? Fred and George made a whole corridor into the swamp and the castle didn't do anything to stop that. I think the wounds will heal but with help from teachers and students.
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Post by misshickerson on Feb 24, 2009 12:36:29 GMT -5
A. - - I have been bothered ever since DH came out that Voldemort could damage the castle as he did. It was his first real home, he wants to posess it, yet he blew up parts of it, attacked it, which seems counter intuitive to me. Voldemort is the kind of person that wants to possess things just for the sake of possessing them. If he needs to cause damage to get what he wants, so be it. The Castle may have been his first real "home," but he didn't necessarily feel comfortable there. I'm sure that if he had succeeded in the final battle, Hogwarts would have eventually looked radically different. Voldemort would have remade parts of it and added improvements, much like what he did with his own body.
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Post by magikcat on Feb 24, 2009 15:01:34 GMT -5
The Castle! A. - - I have been bothered ever since DH came out that Voldemort could damage the castle as he did. It was his first real home, he wants to posess it, yet he blew up parts of it, attacked it, which seems counter intuitive to me. Voldemort doesn't care about anything, really. He liked Hogwarts as a home, but if it stood in his way of taking over, he was going to bring it down if he had to. I'm sure he thought he could rebuild it into his own design after he won the battle. B. - - The Castle seems sentient in so many ways, why doesn't it help defeat the one attacking it? Why doesn't the Magic it is imbued with take over to protect it? Hmm. That's a toughie. I think most of the magic -- besides it's Muggle repelling spells, are really inside the castle. But it isn't a living, breathing creature, as much as we've come to know it as. I'm not quite sure what it could do to protect itself. C. - - Does it seem that JKR dropped the ball and didn't do anything with motto "Never Tickle A Sleeping Dragon"? It seems connected to Hogwarts, I expected it to DO something in the story. Why was it there if there was no significance? Well, the Trio did ride a blind dragon, so it's not quite the same but there is a little bit of a connection. Most likely JK just thought it was funny. D. - - Will the Castle heal itself? Are these magical wounds that will always be there like Moody's scars? I think some of the "ancientness" will be gone. I always saw the destruction of the Room of Requirement as a kind of symbolism for some of the "older" magic disappearing from the castle. It will probably be rebuilt by the teachers and students, but they can't replace the "old" magic. I don't think think it's going to repair itself.
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Post by pigwithhair on Feb 24, 2009 17:17:59 GMT -5
As cool as Hogwarts is, I don't see the castle as it's own character containing magic to defend itself or heal itself. Remember that Sirius was able to get in as Snuffles back in PofA, as well, even with all the protections Dumbledore had on the place.
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Post by queenie on Jun 21, 2009 22:34:02 GMT -5
Ah, but Sirius and Tom Riddle were both old students. If there's any magic in the castle, surely the oldest and deepest must be to protect the students. The school wouldn't hurt a student.* If there's magic to repel the castle against an alien intruder - say, if Grindelwald had ridden out against the school - maybe Hogwarts itself would turn out to be the "Sleeping Dragon" that one shouldn't tickle.
And is the Room of Requirement itself destroyed? I thought merely everything in the "I Need To Hide Stuff" dimension of it was destroyed. Though one thinks that if Fiendfyre can destroy a Horcrux, I guess a Room like that would pose no problem - unless the Room itself has a healing factor. Over years, it'll fix itself. Or maybe the residual magic still remains, if it was destroyed, and a few powerful wizards will be able to replace it.
* The first Law of Hogwarts: Hogwarts may not harm a student, or, through inaction, allow a student to come to harm law excised after the first Charms Lesson, ever, when Gwenog MacFusty accidentally flew a spool into Aethelred Blacksmith's face, and the castle promptly pummeled Miss MacFusty to the other side of the room.
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Post by siriusgirl on Jan 7, 2010 23:29:17 GMT -5
I have a question to chew on: IF Barty Crouch had lived, what do you think would have happened after the truth was out? Would he be arrested? I doubt it with Scrimgeour, but I do think once Kingsley took over, he might have been.
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Post by vegablack on Jan 8, 2010 17:15:30 GMT -5
Do you Barty Crouch Senior? He was so broken part of me didn't want to see him arrested. But Kingsley probably would have felt differently. His actions did bring about Voldemort's return.
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Post by siriusgirl on Jan 8, 2010 19:28:50 GMT -5
Yes. I mean Senior. Had Crouch Jr not been dementor chow, no question he would have been arrested.
I see what you mean about him being broken but you're right about Kingsley, and well let's be honest. What he did was wrong, and he was so power hungry that it's partly a case of reap what you sow. The way he fired his house elf and neglected his son only to give him a monkey trial. Plus had he might be declared unfit to stand trial, considering unless he had recovered.
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